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« on: July 24, 2010, 06:38:52 AM »

Please let me know if I messed up on a link. I do not have enough time to test them all this morning! Oh and CONGRATULATIONS to all finalists! To volunteer to be a judge or presenter please go here
*for the categories that only have 4 finalists there was a HUGE tie for 5th place and in these instances those comics only had 2 votes at most anyway while the other 4 garnered the majority!


*Best Dialogue
The Portland Express     
Charby the Vampirate    
Persona 3 FTW    
Mob Ties    
Shades   

*Best Manga
Charby the Vampirate     
Geminni    
Death Brigade    
WIRES 2    
Mob Ties

*Best Website Design
The Portland Express     
ScareCrow Lullaby    
Shades   
Charby the Vampirate    
Mob Ties

*Best Superhero Comic
Essay Bee Comics Presents Fusion
Bad Guy High     
Super Temps    
Acrobat    
Shades

*Best Sci-Fi Comic
Deadfingers     
Edepth Angel    
Mastorism    
Maggot Boy     
I Was Kidnapped by Lesbian Pirates from Outer Space

*Best Romance Comic
Geminni     
Mob Ties    
The Girl Next Door     
WIRES 2    
Simply Sarah

*Best Socio/Political Comic
Anatta      
Shades   
The Optimist     
Cathy     
MAG ISA

*Best Pixel/Sprite/Stock Image Comic
Lost Chapters Of Megaman      
Moose Shoe     
Pixel Plumbers     
Pokemon Granite

*Best Photo Comic
WWE The Comic     
Asshole     
Lego Space
Attack of the Robofemoids

*Best Parody/Tribute Comic
Eff Eff Ex   
Bad Guy High
the Many Deaths of Mario     
AGENCY
Persona 3 FTW

*Best Overall Strip Comic
Pewfell      
Persona 3 FTW    
Geminni    
Gelotology     
Life and Death
Last Place Comics

*Best Overall Story Comic
Shades    
Geminni    
Maggot Boy     
Mob Ties    
Charby the Vampirate
Portland Express

*Most Deliciously Offensive Comic
Putrid Meat
Death P0rn
Last Place Comics
Kombat Kubs
Morning Squirtz

*Best Mystery/Noir Comic
Valentines Dei      
The Rose Killer     
Danielle Dark 
The Portland Express     
Used Books

*Best Layouts in a Comic
Shades    
Acrobat    
The Portland Express     
Charby the Vampirate
Weave

*Best Humor Comic
Gelotology     
Geminni    
Life and Death    
Mob Ties    
Persona 3 FTW

*Best Horror Comic
The Midnight Tea Party      
Demon Eater     
Vampire Phantasm X    
Charby the Vampirate    
Maggot Boy

*Best Fantasy Comic
Weave      
Endstone     
Elspeth     
Harkovast     
Charby the Vampirate

*Best Community Project
Heroes Alliance      
Off Hours    
Crossoverlord     
The Webcomic Review Comic on the Web
Drunk Duck Mafia

*Best Color Art
Denizens Attention      
Shades   
Geminni    
Charby the Vampirate
Maggot Boy

*Best Black and White Art
Death Brigade     
Weave     
Lola     
The Portland Express     
Acrobat

*Best Background Art
The Portland Express      
Acrobat    
Harkovast     
Shades   
Charby the Vampirate

*Best Character Design
Maggot Boy      
The Portland Express     
Geminni    
Mob Ties    
Charby the Vampirate

*Best 3D/Poser Comic
Shaman Quest
House of Muses      
3D Glasses
Death P0rn
blood bound

*Best Completed Comic
Imaginary Daughter     
The Ends     
WIRES 2    
Shades   
Persona 3 FTW

*Best All-Ages Comic
The Unthinkable Hybrid      
Unlife is Unfair    
Life and Death
The People That Melt In The Rain
George the Dragon

*Best Slice-of-Life/Autobiographical Comic
Geminni     
Jonkos Picture Diary     
Raw Fish     
Simply Sarah
BLANK LIFE insert player rokulily


*Best Writing
The Portland Express      
Mob Ties    
Charby the Vampirate    
Shades
Maggot Boy

*Best Philosophical/Spiritual Comic
Weave      
signifikat     
Shelter of Wings     
Geminni    
Cathy

*Best Simplified Art/Stick Figure Comic
STICKFODDER      
Happyface Comics     
Stickman and Cube     
Persona 3 FTW
Go For it 

*Best Adult-Oriented Comic
Death P0rn
Busty Solar      
Emopuff Girls
Grind

*Best Abstract/Random Comic
Caggage      
Last Place Comics     
Ar Oh Ef El     
Happyface Comics     
Persona 3 FTW

*Most Improved Art
Harkovast      
Mob Ties    
Acrobat    
Persona 3 FTW    
Charby the Vampirate

*Best Anthropomorphic Comic
Zodiac      
Magra     
Mob Ties    
AGENCY 
Harkovast
Bear vs Zombie

*Best Adventure Comic
Charby the Vampirate     
Shades   
The Portland Express     
Harkovast     
Cwen's Quest

*Best Protagonist
MC - Persona 3 FTW
Sidney Burns - Mob Ties
Charby - Charby the Vampirate
Mika - Mob Ties
Davey - Maggot Boy

*Best Antagonist
Bengal - Mob Ties
Dr. Argon - Villain Next Door
Owen - Maggot Boy
Juichi - Raidou Kuzunoha the 19th

*Best Lettering
The Portland Express      
Geminni    
Shades   
Charby the Vampirate

*Best Action Comic
The fighting stranger      
Harkovast     
The Portland Express     
Acrobat    
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2010, 02:05:10 AM »

the Many Deaths of Mario link is missing.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2010, 03:08:44 AM »

thanks!
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2010, 08:26:20 AM »

Bet completed comic features portland express but that appears to still going, surely this is a problem?  well unless I am wrong but the latest page says to be continued.
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2010, 06:53:33 PM »

Made the following changes

 For the Best Completed I am going to remove Portland Express because it is NOT complete.

That means Imaginary Daughter takes its place. Which makes me very happy because I wanted that comic to be up for an award!


For Anthro, Strip, and Story I will be adding a 6th finalist.

For Anthro we have Bear vs Zombie

For strip we have Last Place Comics

For best story we have Portland Express (guess this makes up for it's removal!)

Looking through the community category again I discovered another vote just called Mafia. So I'll assume that was for the Drunk Duck Mafia which makes it break the tie with the other comics in that category.

And Geminni will be removed from the Adult category. Xolta was the only comic with enough votes to get past the huge tie point. But it has not updated since 3-29 Sad So this category will only have 4 comics as well. Vickie just told me online about that one. Unless there is some other HUGE mistake I won't be altering any more.
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2010, 04:06:58 PM »

Portland Express appears to be using a default template -- what's it doing up for best website design? 
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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2010, 04:09:17 PM »

With working from 0 Dark 30 till whenever, don't you love salaried positions, I can do 3 efficiently and 4 a bit cramped but still can do if needed. The three I would like are,
Best Socio/Political- Noir- 3d Poser Comic- add Sci-Fi for the 4th if needed.

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« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2010, 04:15:11 PM »

Portland Express appears to be using a default template -- what's it doing up for best website design? 

I saw that a few days ago and it bothered me too :/ but then I forgot about it. I think that's another one that should be replaced.
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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2010, 04:34:32 PM »

Scott: Thanks for bringing it up. It was bugging me too Smiley


Also: JNP: the link to Scarecrow Lullaby doesn't work (at least the one under best webdesign)
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2010, 08:51:20 PM »

I didn't check any of the websites for the best design. Shades only has a slightly modified template. I also fixed all the links. I had to go through them all today when I was giving out awards banners. Quite a few were wrong XD
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2010, 08:33:18 AM »

I didn't check any of the websites for the best design. Shades only has a slightly modified template.
Only slightly modified? How dare you, sir!  I'll have you know that was lovingly modified from a design by TantzAerine and, ummm ... well, you, actually!
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2010, 01:45:04 PM »

Previously, we tried to do only minimal filtering and just let voters pick stuff, but there seems to be a call for stricter filtering next year.

The creators don't seem to want their comics as finalists in unsuited categories, and I doubt the voters even read what categories they are voting for when they fill out stuff like that.  Jerk that I am, I support tossing out entire ballots that are filled out blindly. (But if we don't, let's at least have a couple diplomatic and trustworthy DDer's share the sorting and filtering burden.)
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2010, 01:37:11 AM »

You know, I'd be careful about making changes.  I read all the gripes in the DD Forums when I returned from holiday and, although some of them were expressed very forcefully, there really weren't that many people doing the complaining.

The few who were complaining are a very small percentage of those who actually participate in the forums and, bearing in mind that most people don't participate in the forums anyway, that number is an even smaller fraction of the total number of DD creators and readers.  It's great that there's been a higher level of feedback this year, but I believe it would be a mistake to give undue weight to the opinions of a small minority just because they shout louder than anyone else.

In all honesty, I believe the current system is pretty good and, for the most part, it works well.  (And, I should perhaps add, I'm not saying that out of self interest since, as a completed comic, Shades won't be eligible for anything next year, irrespective of what system is in place!)

Having a "popular vote" element at any stage inevitably skews the process in favour of the comics with the most followers rather than those which are the best (or the most eligible) in their field.  Personally, I believe the fairest method of judging would be to have every comic on DD assessed for eligibility and quality by a single panel of judges.  In practice, however, this just isn't humanly possible and the complainers need to recognise the need to balance fairness with practicality.

Advance screening is a nice idea in theory but, apart from the fact that it puts extra work on the shoulders of the organisers, it also puts on them the burden of making subjective judgements about which category a comic should or shouldn't be eligible for.  That's unfair to them and - unless they are to read through the entire 12-month archive of every comic in every category (as the judges have to) - it is also potentially unfair to the comics they might choose to exclude.  When a comic misses out on making the list of finalists for a category it should have been in, it's very sad.  (I know I've felt Shades has missed out on one or two shortlists in previous years!)  On balance though, it's a lesser evil than having the organisers make a conscious decision to exclude something before the judges have even reviewed it. 

If the popular vote puts a comic into an inappropriate category, the responsibility for making sure it doesn't win that category really does need to lie with the judging panel for that category.  They're the only people who will have read all the archives for the relevant period and they're the only people who are therefore in a good position to decide.

Okay, that's my two-penn'orth!

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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2010, 04:14:50 AM »

That's true, but we have filtered the "fake votes" in the past. It just wasn't checked as well this year due to lack of man-power, and some fell through the cracks.

I'm not suggesting a system overhaul, but if three comics end up as finalists in EVERY category, that limits the "real" finalists in many of them to just two. That's really not fun. And what if we have five super popular comics next year that are finalists in every category? They get to be awarded as best sprite comic and best photo comic? Story and strip? Do the judges get to say "no awards at all?" While someone suggested letting panels toss out and replace comics, that too is flawed, because it denies the worthy comics the joy of being announced as a finalist -- and the extra traffic. Plus, a contest where the winners are consistently NOT from the announced list of finalists? I can't imagine that going over well with anyone.

It's not like the comic creators are upset that their comic is a finalist in 5 categories instead of 10 -- if the other categories make no sense, have zero chance of winning, and might unintentionally bias both judges and readers against them (it happens, unfortunately). Some categories can't be "filtered" and I wouldn't suggest it (like humor, writing, romance, etc.), but some categories have really obvious and specific qualifiers. Completed comics must be completed. Sprite comics use sprites. Website design implies some amount of design to it (at the very least a line of code altered from the original template). Charby was nominated as "best photo comic" last year, and NO ONE liked it. Least of all probably Amelius. Those are situations we can prevent without making too much of a judgment call.

--Oh, and we can assure that judgments don't enter into things by providing descriptions/criteria for each category. We have put descriptions up in the forum before, usually when deciding which categories to include for the year. We can put those up somewhere for voters to look at, and when JNP or a couple people go through the ballots, they can follow that filter process of only the ones that simply don't fit criteria AT ALL.

Or we could just announce the top however many comics we have (like any getting more than X number of votes) but still take the five most voted for judging. Call the others runners-up that can move into the judging at the panels' discretion. In any case, I think the comics that we judge should have the honor of being listed as finalists. (However, I still think that our usual attempted minimum filtering in necessary to avoid bad blood. The creators shouldn't get grief for their devoted readers nominating them in ridiculous categories.)



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It's funny when I talk about tweaking things people always seem to have such an all-or-nothing attitude! Change isn't always drastic. Wink If I suggested a room to be painted one shade darker, I'm sure some terrified person would shout "No! We don't want it to be solid black! How will we see!?"

And actually, I wasn't suggesting change at all, just trying to be more on the ball with what we've already been doing. I simply think it most be done a little more carefully for the sake of peoples' feelings. I know if my comic was "popular" I would hate to have it be a subject of contempt or ridicule or one that denied a chance to comics in categories I didn't even fit even if my fans meant well.
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2010, 04:56:44 AM »

I don't disagree with anything you've said, Vicky.  I'm just suggesting caution.

It is a relatively small number of people complaining and, whilst I'm sure no one would have a problem with the organisers exercising simple Y/N type decisions (B&W comics in the colour art category, for example), genre categories and even the distinction between aspects such as serious and humorous content can be very subjective. 

If a big deal is made of the organisers' ability to exclude comics, I could envisage a situation where a comic's readers might lobby in the forums for the exclusion of its rivals.  I've certainly been on one panel in the past where one of the losers subsequently argued that his was the only finalist which was really eligible for the award in question!

There are pluses and minuses to any system obviously, but I think DD's current system has more right with it than wrong, so I just wanted to suggest a light-handed approach to any future changes.
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